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Germany Expects Installation ‘Rally’ to Beat Solar Cuts

Bloomberg -- Germany’s solar industry expects an installation rush over the next six months as developers try to beat planned subsidy cuts in the second-biggest market for sun power.

Developers have brought forward plans to install panels on concerns that reductions in feed-in tariffs scheduled to take effect between April 1 and Sept. 30 make later investments unfeasible, the BSW solar industry association said.

“We expect a ‘final rally’ during the next weeks but then a drastic downturn in the market in the fall at the latest,” Joerg Mayer, managing director of the BSW, said by e-mail. “Thousands of solar jobs are then at risk.”

Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government wants to cut the pace of annual solar installations by half after incentives for the industry pushed installations to a record 7.5.

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Submitted Apr 15, 2012 By: Mudsprings

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dhdiesel Veteran Author Riverside Posts:400 Points:44,800 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 10:53:41 PM Ignore dhdiesel Report Abuse And when the subsidies stop here in the U.S., all these solar installers that have been popping up like fly-by-nite used car lots did back in the '60's, will disappear faster than they appeared.. along with those 20 year leases. Suckerrrs
ExplorerWA Champion Author Washington Posts:4,078 Points:797,150 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 10:22:07 PM Ignore ExplorerWA Report Abuse Those subsidies make it feasible.
A2J Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,070 Points:601,975 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 10:20:53 AM Ignore A2J Report Abuse OK
grandpadon28110 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:4,716 Points:1,142,310 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 8:55:28 AM Ignore grandpadon28110 Report Abuse Same o same o.
bar1035 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:9,158 Points:1,298,220 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 8:53:11 AM Ignore bar1035 Report Abuse even the solar proponents admit without subsidies the stuff just can't compete.
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ReddevilNO Champion Author New Orleans Posts:3,371 Points:581,190 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 6:46:39 AM Ignore ReddevilNO Report Abuse Okay.
Blue_Cruzer Champion Author Lexington Posts:7,520 Points:1,669,585 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 6:29:36 AM Ignore Blue_Cruzer Report Abuse Less dependency on oil or fossil fuels.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,217 Points:2,371,370 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 5:58:03 AM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse nice try
kitty1750 Champion Author Kitchener-Waterloo Posts:2,199 Points:470,675 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 3:33:00 AM Ignore kitty1750 Report Abuse Surprising.
CPGas1815 Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,027 Points:1,099,605 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 2:07:30 AM Ignore CPGas1815 Report Abuse Solar power is the most competitive alternative to the products sold at quite a hefty price by the global oil cartel.
1mrtym Veteran Author Houston Posts:457 Points:92,475 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:46:43 AM Ignore 1mrtym Report Abuse ok
vulcan96 Champion Author Ohio Posts:26,916 Points:3,103,675 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:37:37 AM Ignore vulcan96 Report Abuse i sure wish i could afford to add a few more
TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:8,746 Points:1,976,650 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:30:02 AM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse OK, what happens next? Ending of Solar? ANYTHING good????
Rednix Champion Author Miami Posts:6,153 Points:1,275,510 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:27:12 AM Ignore Rednix Report Abuse I would have though more countries with more sun would be ahead of Germany's pace.
a_lu_vasile Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,254 Points:776,200 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:25:16 AM Ignore a_lu_vasile Report Abuse And?
GigHarborHound Champion Author Tacoma Posts:2,532 Points:487,515 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:22:31 AM Ignore GigHarborHound Report Abuse End of subsidies equals the end of solar and wind power!!! Problem is the gubmint has tie rate payers in increased rates to fund the ones currently installed!!!
NemoIL Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,025 Points:1,313,220 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:17:23 AM Ignore NemoIL Report Abuse Of course, solar is unable to stand on its own two feet with out subsidies.
dave27johnson Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,787 Points:408,325 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:17:04 AM Ignore dave27johnson Report Abuse Germany decided to get out of nuclear generation after Japan's disaster and replace it with a mix of renewable and more efficient fossil-fired generators.
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:14,912 Points:1,591,225 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:16:40 AM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse TXGasPriceSpy ... "I know this has something to do with the gas station price!!!" _______________________________________________________________________ Well when you figure it out could you let the rest of us know? This is such a waste of time and money. When will people learn. Do the math and then tell us how much you'll save. [Edited by: RENEGADEGAS at 4/15/2012 1:18:38 AM EST]
afghaned Champion Author Hamilton Posts:11,814 Points:1,285,685 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:16:13 AM Ignore afghaned Report Abuse There are many overcast days in Germany. Their over reaction to the Japanese nuclear disaster will cause more wasted tax payer funds.
Rageagainsttm Champion Author Tampa Posts:8,303 Points:1,902,980 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:14:41 AM Ignore Rageagainsttm Report Abuse ok
TXGasPriceSpy Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:7,810 Points:1,472,275 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:10:30 AM Ignore TXGasPriceSpy Report Abuse I know this has something to do with the gas station price!!!
DirtDauber Champion Author San Antonio Posts:6,781 Points:1,627,460 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:09:29 AM Ignore DirtDauber Report Abuse Good on 'em.
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teafortwo Champion Author Washington Posts:22,106 Points:1,384,910 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 1:01:10 AM Ignore teafortwo Report Abuse Interesting. Seems Germany has noticed that Mother Nature gives free solar energy refills ;0} FROM THE ARTICLE: Electricity from solar panels rose 40 percent in the first quarter compared with a year ago, the BSW said this week. Solar panels generated 3.9 billion kilowatt-hours in the first three months of the year, enough for about 4 million households. [Edited by: teafortwo at 4/15/2012 1:02:11 AM EST]
SteelPenny Champion Author Dallas Posts:30,960 Points:2,607,490 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 12:58:31 AM Ignore SteelPenny Report Abuse Waste more money.
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Boo1989 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:7,172 Points:1,349,570 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 12:51:24 AM Ignore Boo1989 Report Abuse "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe." steven chu, obama's energy secretary.
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LSU_TIGERS_dmb Champion Author Louisiana Posts:1,714 Points:620,770 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 12:49:02 AM Ignore LSU_TIGERS_dmb Report Abuse It does not save money. Drill for oil
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KrsnaDragon Champion Author Montreal Posts:2,407 Points:531,300 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 12:38:53 AM Ignore KrsnaDragon Report Abuse At least they have gotten away from nuclear energy.
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danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,348 Points:1,539,755 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 12:30:19 AM Ignore danreino Report Abuse Odd that solar power is so dominant in one the cloudiest nations on the planet. A positive for them versus here; is in Germany they dont get mega large sized hail like we do here.
jimgraham Champion Author Akron Posts:10,372 Points:1,979,960 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 12:29:27 AM Ignore jimgraham Report Abuse Subsidy cuts or not, the German citizens are in for a rocky ride over the next few years. Without nukes and coal, they will have to start depending on wind and solar - or go without.
RBob Champion Author Portland Posts:3,374 Points:2,347,875 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 12:28:32 AM Ignore RBob Report Abuse The more alternatives the better for everyone.
BobD2009 Champion Author Long Island Posts:6,989 Points:1,239,785 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 12:27:57 AM Ignore BobD2009 Report Abuse Cut the subsidy, and the solar industry goes nuts.
jrschl Champion Author Louisville Posts:2,967 Points:681,065 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 12:26:31 AM Ignore jrschl Report Abuse Europe just thinks differently.
Buddy2264 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,654 Points:2,359,970 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 12:24:03 AM Ignore Buddy2264 Report Abuse I am guessing it will still keep going and solar will reduce the price some to continue to get the sales.
cheapertvs Champion Author Richmond Posts:10,285 Points:2,741,720 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 12:18:22 AM Ignore cheapertvs Report Abuse The Germans ruled that they will have no more nuclear power. This is one of their possible sources for the replacement requirements. Notice that they have an extreme deficit looming over the horizon.
crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,985 Points:2,526,335 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 12:18:10 AM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse more power to them